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Postby Dan2013 » May 08, 2017 4:20 pm

Anyone concerned that a lot of Message Board Accounts keep getting made that have Russian/Cyrillic characters in them and may be Bots or hostile Folks?

I don't really know enough Tech to address this, but it seems strange to me. Unfortunately we do not have a dedicated Tech Person anymore like Silverelf from back in the day.

Is there anyone who could look into this? Thanks.
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Re: Concerned

Postby Spinygrrl » May 08, 2017 10:24 pm

Yep. It concerns me. I just banned a whole bunch of spammers and deleted their spam, but... they still get in.

I wish I had the skills to really do something more permanent about it.
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Re: Concerned

Postby Dan2013 » May 09, 2017 12:02 am

Thanks at least for the reply. Thanks also for fighting the spammers.
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Re: Concerned

Postby astra » May 09, 2017 12:21 am

i don't think it's anything to worry about. and i don't think there's any way to completely prevent them from signing up: the recent ones aren't bots, i don't think - these "people" are actually registering/defeating the recaptcha/filling out various profile fields to try and sell stuffs. as far as i know, manually deleting them is the best we can do.
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Re: Concerned

Postby yellowrose » May 09, 2017 8:02 am

Thanks Dan for being vigilant.

Thanks Spiny and Astra for your work.
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Re: Concerned

Postby FLAMING ATTACK B0T » May 09, 2017 5:30 pm

astra wrote:the recent ones aren't bots, i don't think - these "people" are actually registering/defeating the recaptcha/filling out various profile fields to try and sell stuffs


Bots register and do the spamming. In the middle of this, a human sits there and fills out the CAPTCHAs for them all day. That's how it used to be done, though AIs learn to sort the new CAPTCHAs over time as well so it may be fully automated. I'm reasonably sure it'll just be spam though; annoying but not a sign of an imminent invasion. Russian groups are the chief offenders for a complex of economic and legal reasons.
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Re: Concerned

Postby red sunday » Jun 11, 2019 3:28 am

i know im probably coming into this conversation completely uninvited....but fuck it.

why are you concerned about Russians making their own boards and accounts here?

doesn't that seem a bit xenophobic? i mean, afterall….you have French boards....

so someone who speaks Russian and uses the Cyrillic alphabet cant have a board or account in Russian--yet French people can?

next time you get something in Russian, feel free to send it to me. i understand Russian, so can tell you if the postings are sincere and about radical mental health or not.

and also, i am going to school for website development, and am learning website design in wordpress this term (this site is made on wordpress) so i could check it out once i complete my term, because by then i will have the knowledge to know my way around wordpress sites.
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Re: Concerned

Postby Dan2013 » Jun 11, 2019 2:46 pm

I have no problem with legit Russian Folks being here. It just seemed to me that those posts just looked like Bots or Spam. It is kind of a moot point right now as these Forums are now very quiet and dormant.

If we had stuff that looked like Bots or Spam in English or French, I would be concerned about that as well. I have never seen French Spam here in my years on these Forums, but I have seen stuff in English that looked like Bots or Spam.

Anyway, if some Russian Folks do show up, I will be glad to have you around since you speak Russian. I like Russian culture and language, from what little I know about it. In my view, all people are welcome here, wherever they are from. Just no Spam or Bots.

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Re: Concerned

Postby red sunday » Jun 11, 2019 7:52 pm

ah okay. I guess I was misreading what you were saying, dan.

I hope we get boards from every country in the world, personally....not just France..

we could definitely use some different cultural perspectives, besides the mass homogenized...primarily white-- Euro-American culture, which seems to be ruling these boards so far

i'm going to start working on my website design degree, and will let you know when I have learned enough, so if you guys possibly need website maintenance---or even advertising/marketing (as a collective non-profit)....I can help you with that.
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Re: Concerned

Postby Dan2013 » Jun 12, 2019 2:10 pm

Thanks, Red Sunday. Good to see you around here. I hope that your studies and web design stuff goes well. I am not too techy myself, but it would be good to have someone around who does that sort of thing...
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Re: Concerned

Postby FLAMING ATTACK B0T » Jun 12, 2019 4:25 pm

red sunday wrote:not just France..

* cough * Technically it's "Icarus Project en Français" not "en France". French is spoken in Canada, Switzerland, Belgium, Algeria, Vietnam and dozens of other places and is taught as a second language the world over.
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Re: Concerned

Postby red sunday » Jun 14, 2019 4:03 am

FLAMING ATTACK B0T wrote:
red sunday wrote:not just France..

* cough * Technically it's "Icarus Project en Français" not "en France". French is spoken in Canada, Switzerland, Belgium, Algeria, Vietnam and dozens of other places and is taught as a second language the world over.



same could be said for Russian, and Russian is far more widely spoken than French. FACT.

and I don't speak French, hence why I wouldn't know whether it was in france or French. but that's besides the point. the point is is that there are far more Russian speakers in this world than those that speak French.

we should've had a Russian board a long time ago...
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Re: Concerned

Postby astra » Jun 29, 2019 12:22 pm

@red sunday- i admire your enthusiasm; but you're lacking a bunch of context here, and shouldn't be so quick to jump down folx' throats over assumptions (if we're going to be so bold as to tell each other what we should or shouldn't do).
the threads in Russian mentioned above were JUST spam.
there's a subforum for French-speaking folx because some French-speaking folx showed up and asked for one.
They aren't actually around anymore.. no one is around anymore - or hadn't you noticed?
if you enjoy yelling at an empty room, i can create a "Russian board" just for you? ;D
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Re: Concerned

Postby red sunday » Jul 02, 2019 1:35 am

actually the web owner---the one who created this ENTIRE site/and platform that it is on...is from Russia...and no, its not silver elf...though he did help modify some of it.

why don't you fact check before you be condescending, astra?

should he make an entire platform for you to have the Icarus site on, if you aren't even open to having a Russian language board? hmm?

tell me, is that SPAM? hmm?

also, some of the websites development is from a Polish man. should we avoid having a Polish language board, just because Icarus is based in America?

food for thought.

you want to know why Cyrillic characters were popping up? BINGO! the webmaster was messing around with the site that HE CREATED.

that's why he was getting past Spinygirl. Because a webmaster holds the ENTIRE REIGNS to a site.

and im pretty sure he checks this site weekly. and no, you aren't the webmaster astra. but thanks for the board anyways.
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Re: Concerned

Postby red sunday » Jul 02, 2019 2:09 am

who just made that Russian board for me?
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Re: Concerned

Postby red sunday » Jul 02, 2019 3:00 am

and if no one is around, Astra

then who the hell is reading my blog? because honestly, I am getting about 20 views if not more...each posting I have.

and I was not "jumping down Dan's throat"...I was merely pointing out the ridiculousness of this entire situation.
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Re: Concerned

Postby red sunday » Jul 02, 2019 8:18 pm

obviously, yesterday was not your day--Astra. and neither is today. because im exhausted, and am not willing to deal with your SASS.
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Re: Concerned

Postby red sunday » Jul 02, 2019 10:06 pm

FLAMING ATTACK B0T wrote:
red sunday wrote:not just France..

* cough * Technically it's "Icarus Project en Français" not "en France". French is spoken in Canada, Switzerland, Belgium, Algeria, Vietnam and dozens of other places and is taught as a second language the world over.


nor am I in the mood to deal with your sass, either...to be honest.
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Re: Concerned

Postby astra » Jul 03, 2019 3:20 pm

red sunday wrote:..not willing to deal with your SASS.


being that as it may, i don't mind yours so much now that i've given it a little thought; your raw energy, albeit mixed in disposition, seems to breathe some life into these abandoned threads - and that's at least.. interesting. And since my shots at facetiousness don't appear to have found their intended mark, or to have been helpful, i'll just be straight with you:

there is no active webmaster here, and there wasn't one in 2017 when those threads originated; i was an active moderator at the time - posts were translated, IPs were checked - it was spam; this is a fact.

the forums have been archived and more or less abandoned by the folx with those keys. however, in phpbb, administrative privileges can be assigned to members in order to keep house. you asked for a Russian board, so i made you one - because i found it humorous - but also seeing as it wouldn't harm anything.
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Re: Concerned

Postby red sunday » Jul 03, 2019 7:53 pm

astra wrote:
red sunday wrote:..not willing to deal with your SASS.


being that as it may, i don't mind yours so much now that i've given it a little thought; your raw energy, albeit mixed in disposition, seems to breathe some life into these abandoned threads - and that's at least.. interesting. And since my shots at facetiousness don't appear to have found their intended mark, or to have been helpful, i'll just be straight with you:

there is no active webmaster here, and there wasn't one in 2017 when those threads originated; i was an active moderator at the time - posts were translated, IPs were checked - it was spam; this is a fact.

the forums have been archived and more or less abandoned by the folx with those keys. however, in phpbb, administrative privileges can be assigned to members in order to keep house. you asked for a Russian board, so i made you one - because i found it humorous - but also seeing as it wouldn't harm anything.


yes there is a webmaster. he creates and manages the very platform that this website is created on...by the PhpBB group. His name is Yuri. nice try, astra.

and by the way, there is a way to code your IP address so it encrypts your server, and gives you a different IP address. I do this as well. So everyone thinks Im in Seattle or the Netherlands when they are trying to locate me...when really im in a completely different country and city. they get a fake IP address.

and what do you mean by "mixed disposition"?
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